138. 对罗福莉3.5小时访谈:AI范式已然巨变!OpenClaw、Agent范式很吃后训练、卡的分配、组织平权
小米大模型负责人罗福莉的 3.5 小时深度对谈:从春节凌晨 2 点 OpenClaw 觉醒,到 MiMo V2 系列 (Pro / Omni / TTS) 的"悄无声息伏击",再到 Agent 时代后训练算力 1:1、组织扁平化、AGI 两年内可期。 当下范式已从 Chat 切到 Agent —— 1T 基座 + 后训练敏捷性是新的入场券。
小米大模型负责人罗福莉的 3.5 小时深度对谈:从春节凌晨 2 点 OpenClaw 觉醒,到 MiMo V2 系列 (Pro / Omni / TTS) 的"悄无声息伏击",再到 Agent 时代后训练算力 1:1、组织扁平化、AGI 两年内可期。 当下范式已从 Chat 切到 Agent —— 1T 基座 + 后训练敏捷性是新的入场券。
Lex Fridman 请来两位"一线做过模型、也写过书"的研究者做 2026 年初的 AI state-of-the-art 盘点: Sebastian Raschka 从 GPT-2 一路手撕到 Qwen3 / Gemma 3, 最擅长从架构里读故事;Nathan Lambert 是 AI2 研究员、RLHF 书作者、atom 项目 发起人,frontier 与 open-source 两边都站过。两人聊了 DeepSeek 时刻、Opus 4.5 神话、RLVR 的"假 aha"、scaling 的三个轴、AI 2027 的时间线推后、Anthropic $1.5B 和解、CUDA 的真护城河、atom project,一直到 100 年后世界的样子。
当世最强的数学家谈他亲手用过 AI 之后的判断:想法生成的成本几乎归零, 但瓶颈搬到了 verification 这一侧;50 道 Erdős 问题被 AI 攻克之后随即陷入瓶颈; AI 像在黑暗中乱跳的机器人,能跨过低墙、爬不上悬崖;breadth × depth 才是 数学的下一步——但要先重设整个学术工作流。
Lex Fridman 与 Anthropic 的三位核心人物同场对谈: CEO Dario Amodei 讲 scaling 假设、RSP 的 if-then 结构、"race to the top" 战略与 Machines of Loving Grace; character lead Amanda Askell 讲 Claude 的性格工程、sycophancy 与最优失败率; interpretability 共同创始人 Chris Olah 讲 features、circuits、superposition 和那个著名的 deception feature。三人从战略、产品、研究三个层面拼出 Anthropic 对 "AI inside" 的完整 stereo view。
Dr. Rhonda Patrick joins Andrew Huberman for a comprehensive deep-dive into evidence-based health protocols covering exercise (VILPA, strength training), gut-inflammation cascades, omega-3 as her top supplement, cortisol management, intermittent fasting mechanics, creatine for brain health, and her full supplement stack with dosages and rationale.
Dr. Marc Breedlove explains how prenatal testosterone shapes sexual orientation, the fraternal birth order effect, gay rams, brain sexual dimorphisms, and why sexual orientation is not a choice — through the lens of decades of biological research.
Emotion scientist Dr. Dacher Keltner explains the neuroscience of awe — how shifting perception from "small to vast" triggers measurable health benefits including reduced inflammation, less pain, and better brain health years later. The conversation spans the expanded taxonomy of 20 facial expressions, the role of teasing and embarrassment in group bonding, the loneliness epidemic, music as the fastest path to collective consciousness, and practical awe design for cities and daily life.
Dr. Richie Davidson, a pioneer in meditation neuroscience, explains how just 5 minutes of daily meditation for 30 days produces measurable reductions in depression, anxiety, and inflammation. He introduces the concept of "the lactate of the mind" — the initial anxiety of meditation as an adaptation signal — and presents his four-pillar framework for human flourishing: awareness, connection, insight, and purpose.
Professor Renato Renner of ETH Zurich explains his no-go theorem showing quantum theory contradicts itself when applied to observers who are themselves quantum systems. The conversation covers three incompatible assumptions (universality, consistency, single outcomes), a gravity-based escape route involving reference frame loops, the black hole information paradox, and why choosing an interpretation of quantum mechanics is ultimately an emotional decision.
Michael Nielsen and Dwarkesh Patel explore how scientific progress actually happens — from the messy reality of falsification to hostile verification loops that mislead for decades. They discuss why the tech tree is far vaster than we realize, why alien civilizations would develop radically different technologies, and what this means for AI-accelerated science.
Dr. Jenny Wagner explains why gravitational lensing data only constrains local properties of mass distributions, making every grand dark matter map a model-driven extrapolation. She argues the inverse problem approach — reasoning from data to necessary models — could reshape cosmology and the scientific method itself.
Professor JB Manchak proves that no amount of empirical data — even from every point in the universe — can determine its global structure. He introduces Heraclitus spacetimes (maximally asymmetric universes where local structure determines global structure), and draws surprising parallels between cosmic underdetermination and Zen Buddhist non-self.
历史学家 Lars Brownworth 用 1.5 小时把 793–1066 年的 Viking 时代拆给你看: 从 Lindisfarne 那场让欧洲修士相信"世界末日来了"的袭击,到长船 70–120 mi/day 的恐怖速度, 再到 Ragnar、Valhalla、Berserkers、Leif Erikson 的 Vinland、东到 Constantinople 的 Varangian Guard。最后落到一个反差:这个 destroyer 民族只用了三代人就变成 builder, 造出了 Normandy、Kievan Rus 与现代欧洲的雏形。
谢赛宁的第一次播客访谈,7 小时马拉松对谈, 覆盖 SJTU ACM Class、UCSD 屠卓文、FAIR 何恺明、NYU 李飞飞, 到 2024 年和 Yann LeCun 共同创立 AMI Labs 的全过程。 贯穿主线:representation learning 是 12 年都没解决的核心问题, LLM 是 virtual intelligence,world model 才是真问题。